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The sad state of current affairs in Belgium [Jan. 18th, 2015|02:08 pm]
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I had missed De Zevende Dag, so I decided to watch the VTM news instead.
What is the first thing I see.
85% of all Belgians clailms they want terror suspects (suspects being the key word here) to have their rights revoked.
75% of all Belgians claims it is ok to sacrifice privacy for security.

First of all: who the fuck did they ask? People that blindly follow everything Jan Jambon and Bart De Wever say? Because those two are really well on the way to have our civil rights seriously curbed.
Do people even realise that it starts with "a little less privacy" (which is what they did in the US, something especially Jambon seems to be super happy about), and it ends with someone speaking up against politicians on, say twitter, and having homeland security at their door and having all their rights taken away.
No more traveling abroad, you can probably kiss getting a decent job goodbye (because not a lot of employers will be happy to give someone without an ID/passport a job!), etc etc etc.
THAT is what WILL happen if we blindly agree to what politicians like those two from the NVA want.

I'm also simply DISGUSTED by the state of the media. Because they are clearly using fake numbers (I'm sure that if you asked every Belgian of legal age you'd get a completely different number) to make people think that this kind of political crap is ok.
(For the slow crowd: media get money from politicians, just saying).
Belgian media are a total DISGRACE!

No matter how many times they air lies, I REFUSE to live my life in fear.
I REFUSE to simply sit back and say "oh yes politicians, go ahead, take away my rights away for "the greater good", go ahead" (ok I can't actually change anything, but I will vocally protest on the internet, because it's STILL BETTER THAN SAYING NOTHING AT ALL!).

Oh and Bart De Wever's military patrol of the Antwerp Jewish neighbourhood, let me give you my proverbial two cents on that one.
Well that and him using the fact that France has military patrols in several areas accross the country.
First of all: the fact that France does this did NOT stop any of the attacks in the country (sadly, I wish it had stopped them!), so he should just admit this serves no purpose than to lul people into a false sense of security.
Secondly: seeing fully armed law enforcement just puts people ill at ease, because it gives them the impression that any moment, something bad will happen. So basically all he's accomplishing is spreading fear.
Well done.

I'm not going to say there is no issue with extremists, that there aren't any issues involving muslims. But what the NVA is proposing and doing is NOT the way to solve things. It's only the way to more misunderstandings, intolerance, discrimination, racism and ultimately: violence. And then I'm not talking about muslim extremist violence towards Belgians. Belgians have proven to be quite capable of violence as well, let's be fair.

So people, seriously, open your eyes, think, and realise that the only thing that you can do is stand up for your rights and refuse to be afraid.

Also, for the record: I may be super against what two of the NVA head honcho's are preaching right now, but that doesn't mean that I think every single member of that party is a rotten apple or that every single NVA voter is scum of the earth. I really don't. People have joined and voted for them for their own reasons, and I'm pretty sure a lot of their voters (and party members) are currently feeling like their minds are boggling and disagreeing with the party top's propaganda and attempts at political dictatorship, US style.

If people want to listen to a politician that is still speaking some sense: go and hear Bruno Tobback of Sp.a's vision on the facts (and no, I am not an Sp.a voter, I voted both Groen and Pirate Party last elections).

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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2015-01-18 02:54 pm (UTC)
Greetings from Germany in that context.
Hysteria you don't notice in the first place about this - since PEDIGA overshadows everything for weeks -, if you get your news also through other channels, then you realize some kind of subtile hysteria in what's blown at your head.
The problem on this is, first getting a hold of reliable and viable other news sources beside the mass media and, second, then to autonomously follow them. People with ordinary work hours - where should they take the time from for that...
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[User Picture]From: kittensandsteam
2015-01-18 03:21 pm (UTC)
I do think that politicians and media are breeding mass hysteria yes.
Mass hysteria in the sense that we should suddenly start living in fear and give up our civil rights.
Which I quite thoroughly disagree with.

Also, my husband and many of our friends work regular hours, and they still find ample time to follow off the grid news sources. People that want to will find time to do so.

And even those that don't want to spend time finding alternative news sources and seeing what they have to say still can start by taking in what main stream media are saying and simply _thinking_ it through.
It's pretty easy to realise that a lot of the things passing by on the news are lies.

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[User Picture]From: matrixmann
2015-01-18 03:46 pm (UTC)
Everytime something like that happens they play the same very strage movie.
Recalling a few years ago, it was the hysteria of students wanting to run amok at their school and everyone tried to watch like a hawk. Especially after the Winnenden incident, there was very loud talking in media about "no guns in private ownership anymore!" Now those things are like forgotten, lost in a black hole.

Agreeing with you that seeking for other news sources also has something to do with "wanting".
On some other things, you notice it has a lot to do with which kind of technical possibilities people once were made familiar with. People don't like to get new habbits.
What I'm also seeing on the other side is, you brain more quickly gets overchallenged by picking all these things out yourself.

The thing on thinking it for yourself often is, you can't think stupid enough what the hell gets all twisted around. It's only an experience from seeing one thing in mass media and then seing a blog entry of somebody else who tears apart what's all not correct on that report.
Taking it only half-way seriously, you get to guess there's a lot what also may be twisted around and simplified towards the wrong direction.

Literally, it's better to keep the usual mass media completely out of your life these days, only not to make your head burst if you get a clue what at all is not correctly displayed in them.

...And then it's another issue to not land at some of that infowars shit.
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[User Picture]From: kittensandsteam
2015-01-18 04:05 pm (UTC)
Well we'll have to agree to disagree then.
On pretty much everything.

Because I, for one and I'm certainly not the only one, think that infowars is ace (well most of the time at least).
That and JuiceRapNews :) (especially JuiceRapNews)
And that's just one point you're making I'm disagreeing with.

Even if people are coming up with stupid thoughts whilst thinking for themselves, then at least they are thinking for THEMSELVES and not blindly believing and accepting what the media is force feeding them.

I think people are doing a lot more damage to their brains NOT doing any effort to look into things themselves than the other way around. Stagnation is never positive. Unless you want to challenge neoscience of course, in which case I'll save you the hassle and tell you I'm going to be disagreeing ;)

But let's not turn this into a lenghty debate, as neither of us are going to change our views and opinions (and that's ok, to each their own!) so let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that, thank you for sharing your ideas!:)



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[User Picture]From: kittensandsteam
2015-01-24 10:56 am (UTC)
What I don't understand is how the populace in general can be so blind and/or stupid.
Simple fact: the less privacy people have, the easier it is for them to become a target.
I don't even understand why so many fail to see that simple fact.

Thankfully a lot of politicians in Belgium are starting to see sense, and so hopefully things won't actually change.
*fingers crossed*
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